1. e4 g6 2.f4?! How to counter that move?

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1. e4 g6 2.f4?! How to counter that move?

Postby Hagen » Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:21 pm

I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.
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Re: 1. e4 g6 2.f4?! How to counter that move?

Postby Uly » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:59 pm

What do you normally play? I don't see why any plan that works against something else wouldn't work against f4.
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Re: 1. e4 g6 2.f4?! How to counter that move?

Postby Sean Evans » Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:08 pm

Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbJR4pzJLo
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Re: 1. e4 g6 2.f4?! How to counter that move?

Postby hyatt » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:28 am

Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.


Counter it with your move 1. e4 g6 and play something else there. :)
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Re: 1. e4 g6 2.f4?! How to counter that move?

Postby kingliveson » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:20 am

Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.


[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "8"]

1. e4 g6 2. f4 Bg7 3. d4 c5 4. d5 d6 *

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Enter New Game"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "6"]

1. e4 g6 2. f4 Bg7 3. Nf3 d5 *

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Enter New Game"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "11"]

1. e4 g6 2. f4 c5 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. Nf3 Nc6 5. Bb5 Nd4 *
PAWN : Knight >> Bishop >> Rook >>Queen
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Re: 1. e4 g6 2.f4?! How to counter that move?

Postby Pawel Koziol » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:09 am

I guess You may either go for some kind of Grand Prix Sicilian (play ...c5, ...Nc6, ...e6, ...Nge7, keeping an eye on d7-d5), or simply ...d6/Nf6 without early c5, intending to transpose to Pirc Defense.For some time many of my games tended to start 1.e4 d6 2. f4 g6 3.Nf3 Bg7 4. Nc3 Nf6 - until my club opponents realized that looking for a direct refutation of the Pirc is decidedly unhealthy for them :lol:
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Re: 1. e4 g6 2.f4?! How to counter that move?

Postby Hood » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:28 am

Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.


Hi,
what about 2... e5 :-)

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Re: 1. e4 g6 2.f4?! How to counter that move?

Postby Tony Mokonen » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:54 pm

Hood wrote:
Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.


Hi,
what about 2... e5 :-)

Rgds Hood


Your suggestion, as bizarre looking as it is at first, doesn't seem to be all that bad. I tried a few mini-matches at a fairly fast time control (40/5) from that position, and black came out more than ok (>50% score for black, surprisingly).
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Re: 1. e4 g6 2.f4?! How to counter that move?

Postby Hood » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:54 am

Thank you. :-)
Could you post some games ?

The move was looking logical for me.
we got the position from King Gambit 1e4 e5 2.f4 g6 by the way.

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Re: 1. e4 g6 2.f4?! How to counter that move?

Postby zamar » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:35 pm

Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.


One option is 2..d5!?
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