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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri May 02, 2025 12:11 pm

UPDATE 5

The Winner (via UHO_Lichess_4852_v1 Epd openings) is
Kookaburra 3.10 - My Congratulations to DorsZ, SF team!
In short, Kookaburra is just UNSTOPPABLE.. as real BEAST for sure !!

Where unfortunately Omega is last place..and now 100% clear that
Omega MPV engine suffers a lot via UHO_Lichess_48521 openings..
Btw, via Unique openings: Omega's performance is one of best !!

On other hand, just I's like to point out that too:
HypnoS++ 1.02 at any recent opening test cond. suffers much too!
And let's hope M.Z will improve his engine (in future releases...)

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Rank Name                Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Kookaburra 3.10    3869   13   13  1040   54%  3840   49% 
   2 Corchess 210325    3864   13   13  1040   53%  3841   48% 
   3 SF-X 130425        3859   13   13  1040   53%  3841   48% 
   4 Stockfish 020425   3859   13   13  1040   53%  3841   50% 
   5 SF PRO2 190325     3859   13   13  1040   53%  3841   49% 
   6 KillfishPB 110425  3848   14   14  1040   51%  3843   48% 
   7 Artemis 12TR       3845   13   13  1040   50%  3843   50% 
   8 HypnoS++ 1.02      3796   13   13  1040   42%  3849   50% 
   9 Omega MPV          3790   13   13  1040   41%  3850   49% 
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/iloDCLwJ#2RPVI4Uyw ... G_F56n4Duc

And please stay tuned..soon as possible,
New and more details plus stats coming...

Greetings

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri May 02, 2025 12:40 pm

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Meanwhile,
Let Me say also please some notes more,
And just for our Computer Chess's progress!

1st of all,
We have to ask ourselves, in recognizing truth about NNUE:
- It is simply playing/gaining with previous trained data!
If I am missing something here...please correct Me...

On other hand,
The well-updated NNUE files + strong openings lead to
Much more draws, this is as real fact! e.g in the recent
Official tour, we noticed about 92% overall draw ratio!
Otherwise, if Unique suite was based on weak lines, then
Full of blunder moves would be born... and here just only
Who are Born-Idiots may have troubles to see the reality...!)

E.g as clear proof that Unique openings are not so Drawish:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... 1990s-cs-i
And if you need more statistics data...just let me know please...)

By the way, and once more:
Blaming the strong openings is just another MADNESS!
And please..I did not start the testings from yesterday!

Moreover,
Why we see different draw statistics (via my recent tours) ?
Simply because due to the 'strength' of the played openings!
In short, it seems Unique suite has less blunder moves in..!

For examples,
If X opening suite is full with blunders, critical, weak moves..
Then of course it's expecting to appear much more blunder moves!
In same time that means more wins...but more wins do not mean
Better..sure I refer here if determining the strength of engines!
In other words, it all depends..such as on our used tour cond.!

But this is also true that in case of using strong openings,
Less blunder moves are on scene for sure! proved, guaranteed!
And it is not required many thousands of games (per player),
E.g about 1.000 (per player) is enough for any kind of testing,
And it does not matter 2000+ or 3000+ or 3800+ Elo eng tours!

And as final words, for better eng Elo metrics:
I would prefer Bullet + Strong opening lines than
Testing the engines via Slower TC + Weak openings

In other words,
No way to run serious competitions via 'blundered' openings!
And it does not matter what you will use e.g SLOW TC, MP etc.

If still not so clear,
Weak Opening Line = The blunder move is already included in opening!
Where via strong opening suites..no much blunder moves are there...
And this is NOT as joke !! Hope helps )

And I hope too that
All my latest produced data to be useful as well !)

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Fri May 02, 2025 9:54 pm

All the data is useful, and I'm very grateful for the final test. I can only congratulate Dorsz on this derivative engine, and I have no choice but to take an X-ray to Kokaburra; the work is extraordinary.

And thank you very much, Mr. Sedat, for taking the time and resources to do it.

Best regards and have a great weekend!

Thanks a lot.

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