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Re: SedatChess

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:51 pm
by Sedat Canbaz
Homayoun wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:29 pm Chiron5. Wish that authors could make the NNUE version of engine. Chiron was an interesting engine. Like Andscacs and also Xiphos.
Best regards
Yeah... a good idea.. :difus_19

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:51 pm
by Sedat Canbaz
UPDATE 4

SCCT - Blitz (3m+2s): ShashChess... wins !!
Congratulations to K. Kiniama, A. Manzo!

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Rank Participant            Score     
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 1: ShashChess Santiago  45.0 / 52  
 2: Komodo Dragon 3.3    43.0 / 52  
 3: rofChade 3.1 NN      37.5 / 52  
 4: Booot 7.3            37.0 / 52   
 5: Arasan v24.2.2       35.0 / 52  
 6: Ginkgo (Fritz 19)    34.5 / 52  
 7: Lc0 v0.31.1 CPU      29.5 / 52   
 8: Deep Shredder 13     23.0 / 52   
 9: Chiron 5             22.5 / 52 
10: Tornado 9 NNUE       17.5 / 52  
11: Rybka (Fritz 16)     17.5 / 52 
12: Zappa Mexico II      10.0 / 52   
13: The Baron 3.45        9.5 / 52 
14: Jonny 4.00            2.5 / 52   
-----------------------------------
Draw-Ratio (based on 364 games) is just 31%

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/PkYGgA6b#ddkP7YppU ... M_kUmP0IOs

Note also that,
So far all stable..exc. Tornado 9 is lost several games on time!
It seems this Tornado ver is buggy...maybe suffers via 'Ponder On'
And I'm afraid that in ongoing Rapid: Tornodo will forfeit on time too..
That's why, instead of 52 games (per player), 26 games will be...

And please stay tuned...more updates soon as possible!
For example, Rapid CS (25m+10s) already started as well

Greetings )

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:47 pm
by Sedat Canbaz
UPDATE 5

RAPID (25m+10s) CS Antalya 2024: Komodo Dragon 3.3's start is amazing!
Sure Ginkgo (Fritz 19) is just behind as 2nd, another beast for sure, and
For right now ShashChess Santiago is 3rd rank..we will see, but it's hard
To guess what will be next ranks (under these serious tour conditions) !?

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Komodo Dragon 3.3             492     nan       9   94.4%   11.1% 
   2 Ginkgo (Fritz 19)             361     nan       9   88.9%   22.2% 
   3 ShashChess Santiago           241     206      10   80.0%   40.0% 
   4 Arasan v24.2.2                191     204      12   75.0%   33.3% 
   5 rofChade 3.1 NN               154     125      12   70.8%   58.3% 
   6 Lc0 v0.31.1 CPU               147     268      10   70.0%   20.0% 
   7 Chiron 5                       39     186       9   55.6%   44.4% 
   8 Booot 7.3                     -44     157       8   43.8%   62.5% 
   9 Rybka (Fritz 16)             -108     215      10   35.0%   30.0% 
  10 Zappa Mexico II              -147     268      10   30.0%   20.0% 
  11 The Baron 3.45               -241     nan      10   20.0%   20.0% 
  12 Deep Shredder 13             -361     nan       9   11.1%   22.2% 
  13 Tornado 9 NNUE               -382     nan      10   10.0%   20.0% 
  14 Jonny 4.00                   -382     nan      10   10.0%   20.0% 

69 of 182 games finished.

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:45 am
by Sedat Canbaz
UPDATE 6

Rapid (25m+10s) CS over: K. Dragon wins!!
My Congratulations to Komodo Dragon Team!

Congrats to all rest eng players too:

2nd ShashChess Santiago

3rd Ginkgo (Fritz 19) + rofChade 3.1 NN

FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ed-to-wccc

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/DhoCiRaI#veP5qoGcH ... RA5unx4BKk

By the way, without to not mention this I can't as well:
There are also such non-official tours out there, which
Often are mentioning such as they are as real World
Computer Chess Championships..in short, I can say over:
Dreaming is not bad at all...but before I suggest them:
To use stronger, better openings, then we can discuss!

Thanks for your interest...and have a nice day!


Best,
Sedat

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:56 am
by Homayoun
Thanks Sedat. Very good results for Komodo Dragon science it hasn’t been updated for almost long time. Again Shashchess proved that it is weaker than Stockfish.
Thanks and best regards

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:10 pm
by Sedat Canbaz
Homayoun wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:56 am Thanks Sedat. Very good results for Komodo Dragon science it hasn’t been updated for almost long time. Again Shashchess proved that it is weaker than Stockfish.
Thanks and best regards
Not at all dear Homayoun )

Well, without running serious testings (with many games),
I've no any idea about Shashchess S. is weaker or stronger!

For this and to be more sure,
Right now I realized to run a new duel:
Shashchess Santago vs Stockfish 17

Btw,Tornado 9 is played as 'golden' key,
About many players to gain easy points,
Including Komodo Dragon 3.3 here too !!
But sometimes not all in my hands...sure there are
Some ways, such as to replay all those buggy games,
But just in case...then I am afraid to say that
I will destroy the tournament's originality..
Plus via this way (replaying lost games on time), then the
Programmers may never be forced to fix their buggy engines...

And please stay tuned,
Soon as possible I hope to share the latest new duel results )

Greetings

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:57 pm
by Sedat Canbaz
Meanwhile,
Rapid (25m+10s) Standings as without Tornado 9 NNUE:
Where Tornado's time loses are played some influences,
But there is one true: Komodo Dragon is still Winner !!

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                         1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  0  1  2  3  
1   Komodo Dragon 3.3    ** ½½ 1½ 1½ ½1 1½ 1½ 11 11 11 11 11 11  20.5/24
2   ShashChess Santiago  ½½ ** ½½ ½½ ½1 ½1 ½½ 11 11 11 ½1 11 11  18.5/24
3   rofChade 3.1 NN      0½ ½½ ** ½½ ½½ ½½ ½1 ½1 11 11 11 11 11  17.5/24  166.75
4   Ginkgo (Fritz 19)    0½ ½½ ½½ ** 0½ ½½ ½1 11 11 11 11 11 11  17.5/24  163.00
5   Arasan v24.2.2       ½0 ½0 ½½ 1½ ** ½½ ½½ 1½ ½1 11 11 11 1½  16.0/24
6   Booot 7.3            0½ ½0 ½½ ½½ ½½ ** ½½ 1½ ½½ 11 11 11 11  15.5/24  143.25
7   Lc0 v0.31.1 CPU      0½ ½½ ½0 ½0 ½½ ½½ ** 1½ 11 1½ 11 11 11  15.5/24  139.75
8   Deep Shredder 13     00 00 ½0 00 0½ 0½ 0½ ** ½½ ½0 11 1½ ½1   8.5/24  62.25
9   Chiron 5             00 00 00 00 ½0 ½½ 00 ½½ ** 1½ ½1 1½ ½1   8.5/24  59.00
10  Rybka (Fritz 16)     00 00 00 00 00 00 0½ ½1 0½ ** ½1 1½ 11   7.5/24
11  Zappa Mexico II      00 ½0 00 00 00 00 00 00 ½0 ½0 ** 01 ½1   4.0/24  25.00
12  The Baron 3.45       00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0½ 0½ 0½ 10 ** 1½   4.0/24  20.00
13  Jonny 4.00           00 00 00 00 0½ 00 00 ½0 ½0 00 ½0 0½ **   2.5/24

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:18 pm
by Sedat Canbaz
UPDATE

Blitz: 2m+1s, Ponder OFF, 1 Core, Balsa, 128 Hash etc

Sure for better conclusion we need much more games, but
It's clear also that both Top engines are close in strength!
If nothing else, I refer for these played blitz conditions...

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1   ShashChess Santiago  +6/-6/=388 50.00%  200.0/400
2   Stockfish 17         +6/-6/=388 50.00%  200.0/400
GAMES:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/RNmDvtfL

Greetings

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:48 pm
by Homayoun
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:18 pm UPDATE

Blitz: 2m+1s, Ponder OFF, 1 Core, Balsa, 128 Hash etc

Sure for better conclusion we need much more games, but
It's clear also that both Top engines are close in strength!
If nothing else, I refer for these played blitz conditions...

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1   ShashChess Santiago  +6/-6/=388 50.00%  200.0/400
2   Stockfish 17         +6/-6/=388 50.00%  200.0/400
GAMES:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/RNmDvtfL

Greetings
Many thanks Sedat. ;)

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:53 pm
by Sedat Canbaz
Homayoun wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:48 pm
Many thanks Sedat. ;)
It's my pleasure Homayoun :difus_19

By the way,
I do not know what is behind the mystery...but what I know?
Komodo is Komodo..a real master in slower time controls too !

Actually Komodo Dragon is not best only via
Recent tour (25m+10s) Adapted to WCCC !

For example (for anyone missed) during other NN CS XXXVII:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nnue-cs-37
We see another amazing score, played under serious cond. too:
Ponder ON, 15m+2s etc. in other words, I mean simply that
Komodo Dragon's mystery was on scene again!!

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Rank Name                Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 KomodoDragon 3.2   3710   16   16   102   63%  3648   72% 
   2 Stockfish 16       3708   16   17   102   63%  3648   75% 
   3 Raubfish X48c3 SC  3700   16   17   102   61%  3648   76% 
   4 RapTora 2.2        3700   16   17   102   61%  3648   78% 
   5 Berserk 080923     3696   16   17   102   60%  3649   75% 
   6 RubiChess 180923   3675   17   18   102   55%  3650   78% 
   7 Caissa 1.12        3664   18   18   102   52%  3650   85% 
   8 Koivisto 090223    3649   18   18   102   50%  3651   81% 
   9 C.S.Tal 2.0        3647   18   18   102   49%  3651   84% 
  10 Igel 3.5.0         3643   19   18   102   48%  3652   76% 
  11 Revenge 3.0        3642   18   18   102   48%  3652   82% 
  12 SlowChess 2.9      3635   18   18   102   47%  3652   77% 
  13 Seer 2.6.0         3629   18   18   102   45%  3653   84% 
  14 Arasan 24.0        3624   18   17   102   44%  3653   82% 
  15 Clover 6.0         3610   18   17   102   41%  3654   67% 
  16 Viridithas 10.0.0  3603   17   16   102   39%  3654   75% 
  17 Uralochka 3.39d    3595   17   16   102   37%  3655   69% 
  18 Booot 7.2          3594   17   16   102   37%  3655   67%
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