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Thats people my friend, some people just want attention dont give them that satisfaction. Just leave them alone. The perfect victory is to ignore them (haters) n continue with ur work.
My vision is to have people have an engine that plays different n strong even if its not powerful than all as long as its strong n plays its own way n can be used to analyse games n make books n free to the people am happy, but i hv seem some people r starting with stories to discourage me. Ow well am used to stunts like that.
My final words to you mr Sedatc, be proud of ur work, time n hardware & let them talk

TR

deeds wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:59 pm Waiting Rulleeeee sends us the exp file that Sedat used for his "1st test", i checked the conformity with the experience data of an older Rulleeeee's exp :

I never saw kind of ultra low rate

Maybe with the right Rulleeeee's exp file, these stats will be better...

For example, here are some usual rates of conformity with experience data when learning engines are set on their default settings (=training mode) :


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OrgZ wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:21 pm Thats people my friend, some people just want attention dont give them that satisfaction. Just leave them alone. The perfect victory is to ignore them (haters) n continue with ur work.
My vision is to have people have an engine that plays different n strong even if its not powerful than all as long as its strong n plays its own way n can be used to analyse games n make books n free to the people am happy, but i hv seem some people r starting with stories to discourage me. Ow well am used to stunts like that.
My final words to you mr Sedatc, be proud of ur work, time n hardware & let them talk

TR

+1

OrgZ wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:21 pm Thats people my friend, some people just want attention dont give them that satisfaction. Just leave them alone. The perfect victory is to ignore them (haters) n continue with ur work.
My vision is to have people have an engine that plays different n strong even if its not powerful than all as long as its strong n plays its own way n can be used to analyse games n make books n free to the people am happy, but i hv seem some people r starting with stories to discourage me. Ow well am used to stunts like that.
My final words to you mr Sedatc, be proud of ur work, time n hardware & let them talk

TR

Thank you

Homayoun wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:28 pm

OrgZ wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:21 pm Thats people my friend, some people just want attention dont give them that satisfaction. Just leave them alone. The perfect victory is to ignore them (haters) n continue with ur work.
My vision is to have people have an engine that plays different n strong even if its not powerful than all as long as its strong n plays its own way n can be used to analyse games n make books n free to the people am happy, but i hv seem some people r starting with stories to discourage me. Ow well am used to stunts like that.
My final words to you mr Sedatc, be proud of ur work, time n hardware & let them talk

TR

+1

Thanks

One thing more (about SCCT tours),
Many many times I stated clearly that
I run parallel matches..and not once..since many years!
It is true that nowadays I use mainly Cutechess GUI, but
Since many years I often used to play Arena + Fritz GUIs

To be more clear, this is completely nothing new e.g:
I mean that when organizing my book/eng tours etc. e.g:
I open/run manually several Fritz GUIs and for each GUI:
I install separate folder of Engines and CTG books (per GUI)
Otherwise, no way CTG books to learn (in game-play) etc.
And it seems that these 'clever' guys are missing to read..
And very likely,
SCCT (in their dreams) is coming as NIGHTMARE ))

What I can say more about these parallel Chess GUI matches,
Under this testing system way, (sure depending on conditions)
I run since 2002-2003 years, I mean I started so many years ago!
Some may were even not active in our Computer Chess, even some
May were not born...but what we see nowadays, these clever guys
Are too busy for looking for holes over my work..sad..but they
Forget that their test conditions details are so limited, that
Each time I have to ask or I try to give them recommendations!
And as usual, their work is perfect... our work is worst.. hehe ))

Btw, for anyone interested...)
I am not already boy..at age 52 years old,
But many say I'm looking too young..under 40 )
About how my BRAIN works is too slow or fast?
Believe Me, I'm feeling like 20 -30 years old !)
And still my LOVE to CHESS is kept as before!

For more detailed info, please feel free to ask!


Best,
Sedat

Meanwhile, another brilliant idea is born:
I suggest also who dislike, hate my chess activities...
Simply to ignore the current thread plus my tours too!
Really...and I think that this will be as best solution!

And what a pity also that, in our chess hobby there are
Some arrogant members who love to say, such as that
I don't care SCCT, SedatChess site is not center etc. etc.
On other hand, what kind of sick mentality can be of that?
Did I ask them? NO.. but they love to underestimate my work..
Plus some opened thread/s, postings e.g accusing Me as liar etc.
And what about if I start to talk over them..then BIG problem..
And as we see, some here coming and saying: Calm Down..
Anything more else ? Are you ok ?
Then may I ask to these guys, where did you have been before?
When these fake account members were attacking Me?
Maybe you was too busy? again bad and cheap actions!
At least I can say, again double standards.. not professional!

And this posting is going again to these clever guys:
Look, why you do not create something perfect or better?
Yes...you are free to organize better tours, no problem!
And believe Me, I'll be happy..and I will congratulate..!
Easy to talk.. but let's see in reality how you are good ?)

Hopes helps..

By the way,
While we talk about Calm Down ))

One of my favorites, Rema - Calm Down:
https://youtu.be/CQLsdm1ZYAw

And just enjoy...

And once more,
Please don't take too seriously my organized competitions,
They are not World Champion matches..simply organized
Just mainly for fun...no more no less...

Best,
Sedat

deeds wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:15 pm
For example, here are some usual rates of conformity with experience data when learning engines are set on their default settings (=training mode) :

Deeds,

Let's leave for the moment the Learning Engines etc.
Is not boring? if each time we'll to talk about exp files?

Look, I have another new idea...
And I hope you'll like it...

To be honest, really I wish to help you..
Reason, it seems you are much affected..
Plus, frankly my target is simply that:
The next Deeds book version to be ranked at higher!
And in this way, we may become as not so good friends,
But if nothing else, I hope you will not hate Me so much...

Continuing...

Currently, Depth4_Deeds book is ranked much lower
Than expected... but believe Me I'd like to give
You some very useful suggestions about your next
Database/Book to be better and stronger in quality!

Note also that,
Actually, even you'll have very high-quality games etc.
Still no BIG chances to be as one of Leading Top books!
Sure just in case.. will be ranked higher..but not enough..
E.g there are some other techniques, which are required...
Sure it's a long story.. but if you are interested,
Just tell Me..I will try to help...

If you are not interested...will be sad,
But simply ignore my current posting

Hello there )

Well, just out of curiosity I've realized to run another new Duel match
For example, almost same test conditions as my previous exp testings,
Main difference, instead of SF -PB, this time Eman 8.91 vs RapTora 2.2

To be more clear,
Both (Eman 8.91 and RapTora 2.2) are played via
Same pre-learned Eman exp (dated on 17.07.2023),
But now, after checking.. both dated as 25.07.2023
So it seems that the engines are used to learn...
Btw, for each player is installed separate exp file..
RapTora 2.2 is the version, which is compiled by
Eduard Nemeth, sure as main author is Anton Ges
And plus all Stockfish developers..

And here are the FINAL results, the Winner:
RapTora 2.2 - Congrats to Anton, Eduard, SF team!
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/3sBywaoS#mc16D7fGy ... OT_qxhSbPU

Conditions:
Ryzen7 4800H, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+0.6s, 128 MB Hash, 4-MEN
Note: Unique v50 opening suite is used (played each opening as twice)
CuteChess GUI's concurrent games: 10

And without to not mention this I can't as well,
For example, in my previous recent testings...
We noticed that RapTora 2.2 + Eman exp performed
Clearly better than Eman 8.91 + Eman exp

Ok.. let's say previous test was due to error margin
What about now? probably the Experts will explain
Better than Me... because this is Shocking News!
E.g in my understanding own Exp files have to do
Stronger with own Engines...really interesting..
In other words, I can not remember such record!
Since we are born..we are all learning..and if
You ask Me what I learned today? my replay is:
RapTora 2.2 engine is one of Best of the Best!
And not only in Eng learning..plus in stability!
Same words going for many other engines too!

And once more, I can summarize it:
Success is no accident..It's a hard work..

And as usual, thanks for your interest...


Best,
Sedat